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So if the media and coaches can do it, why can't we? Would anyone who's a serious college football fan be interested in submitting a weekly poll so we can have TFP rankings? Yes, it's somewhat pointless. But it's fun. We could just do top 15, perhaps, so it wouldn't require that wide of a knowledge base.

I realize this is a week early, but I saw that it was open and wanted to go ahead and create a TGP group before I forgot about it.

To play bowl pick 'em, follow the steps below:

1) Go here: http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/collegefootball/bowlpickem/.
2) Log in and create an entry. Make sure you select NO for point spreads. (NOTE: You may have to create an MSN account to get in, but it only takes a few minutes.)
3) Once your entry is created, click JOIN GROUP. At the top right of the next screen, it should say JOIN PRIVATE GROUP. Enter the information. Our group ID# is 1144183 and our password is stevowins.

You should be all set from there! Post here to let us know you've joined.

Members of the Palace, the time has come to make your voice heard for Heisman voting. Here's how it's going to work. Similar to the way the Heisman is officially voted for, ballots will rank your top three. A first-place vote counts as three points, a second-place vote two points, and a third-place vote one point.

Feel free to debate who should win the award in this thread, but ballots must be PMed to me by this Saturday December 12th at 3:00pm. That night, shortly before the official ceremony, I'll announce the winner.

The Heisman Trophy is awarded to the most outstanding player in college football. Rank the top three most outstanding as you see it. Below are some possible candidates based on their performance this season, listed in alphabetical order.

Eric Berry, SS, Tennessee
Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
Case Keenum, QB, Houston
Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
Tim Tebow, QB, Florida

Rose Bowl
Ohio State vs. Oregon
1/1 - 4:30pm

Sugar Bowl
Florida vs. Cincinnati
1/1 - 8:30pm

Fiesta Bowl
TCU vs. Boise State
1/4 - 8:00pm

Orange Bowl
Georgia Tech vs. Iowa
1/5 - 8:00pm

BCS National Championship Game
Alabama vs. Texas
1/7 - 8:00pm

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I'll sticky this for now, and we can add more bowl games when they're announced.

1. {58} 1,498
2. {2} 1,424
3. 1,370
4. 1,370
5. 1,156
6. 1,113
7. 1,054
8. 1,047
9. 989
9. 989

Can a mod pin this so it's easier for me to find it every week when I update it? Kthanx.

The first BS rankings of the season don't come out until next Sunday, but I came across part of the rankings tonight thanks to my pal at FOX Sports Radio, John Fricke. One of the deciders of the BS Rankings, the Colley Matrix, leaked out. First off, Colley claims this is "bias free" equation of the BCS. Ah, no. If a human being has to write the computer code and input the records and schedules, then you can't say it's "bias free." And, even for arguments sake it was, what it lacks in bias it make sup for in sheer insanity.

Guess who this computer has at #1? Guess. Guarantee you can't get it before you click the link. Also, look who is #18. Um, really? No.....really? #45?

But hey......this makes WAY more sense than some wacky "playoff" system. Why decide games on the field when the Matrix and Sagarin computer can do it for us. And, quite obviously, do it better.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html

Heres some John I Leonard love lol. Heres some homeboys i know from John I in the college ranks now.

First one is Q, he was our returner for us, and was A BEAST at it. He runs a 4.35 and is a burner basiclly, reminds me of a D. JAckson. He would prob be drafted fo a Return man if he does get to the NFL. As a WR hes ok needs work but he'll get it.

http://mississippi.scout.com/a.z?s=177&...amp;nid=4591718

Next one is Kendrick hes a BEAST for a DE, he was 6'5 , 320 as a jr in high school lol. He rocked me outta my helmet in practice freshman yr. Hes fast to for his built, he remind me of a fast Darnell Dockett the way he sheds block, but yet strong like Shaun Rogers, he was top 5 DT in the state of Florida. More of a Wiki Page but thy said hes a 2d-3rd rounder for next yr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenrick_Ellis


Next one is m homeboy i knew from Lake Worth Middle, i still talk to em here and there, been awhile tho. But rumors saying he would transfer to WU bcuz Bama Q depth chart is jut getting longer. And Star wants to start now, last time i talked to em was before New Yrs, but he can throw and run, Vince Yong is his idol, and remins me of T JAck for the Vikes. But a accurate passer. Nothing new on him either which is puzzling.

http://www.rollcrimsontide.com/StarJacksonBio.html


But Ellis would be next yr, Q and Starr withn a couple of yrs, so ifyall hear thei names on the big lists soon, they gunna be ballers. Kendrick will prob end up a NT but he is faster then he looks , trust me on that lol.

CFN

RB Shane Vereen
Vereen is slated to become the next in a long line of 1,000-yard rushers mentored by ace running backs coach Ron Gould. When a serious concussion to Jahvid Best pressed him into a feature role last November, he responded with 100 yards on the ground in three of the last four games. He works like a flat bed and moves like a sports car, a rare combination that's going to produce Best-like numbers this fall. After racking up more than 2,000 total yards and 19 touchdowns as the second banana, Vereen is ripe for the type of season that makes him a household name by the end of his junior year.


WR Mohamed Sanu
When the versatile Sanu arrived last year, the Scarlet Knights weren't exactly sure where they'd wind up playing him. By midseason, they realized they might as well line him up all over. A 6-2, 215-pound game-changer, he's instant offense with the ball in his hands. He finished his debut season with 51 catches for 639 yards and three touchdowns, while getting an increasing amount of work in the Wildcat package. Sanu rushed for 346 yards and five touchdowns on 62 carries, giving Rutgers a weapon it's seldom had. Best of all, he can grow alongside franchise QB Tom Savage, who's also in his second year with the program.


WR Alshon Jeffrey
Just a year removed from high school, Jeffery validated his standing as one of the top wide receiver recruits of 2009. Even in an offense that was inconsistent through the air, his star shined through, a precursor of what's to come in the next few seasons. After starting slowly, he erupted over the final two-thirds of the year to finish with a team-high 46 catches for 763 yards and six touchdowns. That was just teaser for a 6-3, 215-pounder, who can create mismatches with his physicality and will be reuniting with improving junior QB Stephen Garcia.


QB Robert Griffin
Out of sight, out of mind. Griffin was supposed to have his national coming-out party in 2009, but a torn ACL last September completely changed the script. Instead, he'll be looking to make a splash in a do-over sophomore season. The Bears will take it easy with their prized quarterback in the spring in the hopes that he'll be completely ready for the Sept. 4 opener at TCU. When healthy, he has as much dual-threat potential as any quarterback in the country, rushing for 843 yards and 13 scores as a freshman in 2008, and throwing 19 touchdown passes to just three picks in his first 15 games.


QB Blaine Gabbert
To be sure, there were rough spots in Gabbert's debut as the starter for Mizzou. That's bound to happen when you've got limited experience and are replacing local legend Chase Daniel. He eventually settled down in the second half of his sophomore year to finish with respectable numbers, including 24 touchdown passes and 3,593 passing yards. Beyond just the statistics, he has the raw physical gifts to become a special passer in the Big 12 if he continues to improve his reads and decision-making. At 6-5 and 240 pounds, he can make all the throws, moves surprisingly well for his size, and plays in an offense that'll showcase all of those skills.


WR Greg Childs
Don't fault Childs if he enters this season with a little chip on his shoulder. Somehow, he was passed over for the All-SEC squad despite leading Arkansas with 48 catches for 894 yards and seven touchdowns. Teammate Joe Adams, however, had 19 fewer catches and 326 less yards, yet earned a spot on the second team. Go figure. Childs is Ryan Mallett's preferred target, which tells you all you need to know about his upside potential. After a slow start in the offseason, he picked things up in the summer, improving his speed and adding more muscle to his 6-3, 217-pound frame. If he can maintain the focus throughout the spring, individual honors won't elude him this December.


RB Bryce Brown
Last year was one big saga for Brown, who turned his recruitment into a three-ring circus. This year, he gets an opportunity to show the nation that he was worth all of the attention. He laid a solid foundation by turning 101 carries into 460 yards and three scores, and catching 10 passes for 137 yards and another touchdown. The graduation of Montario Hardesty should keep Brown busy this fall, affording him enough touches to rush for 1,000 yards and earn all-conference consideration. He's the total package in a runner, blending power with the breakaway speed and cutback ability to make defenders whiff.


RB Allen Bradford
The perennial logjam known as the Trojan backfield could be as uncongested as it's been in years. Bradford is the back most likely to take advantage. He impressed after Stafon Johnson was injured in a weight-lifting accident last fall, running for a career-high 668 yards and eight scores on 115 carries. With Johnson and Joe McKnight out of the picture in 2010, he's liable to turn his senior year into a successful audition for NFL scouts. A newer version of LenDale White at Troy, he'd just as soon run over defenders with his 5-11, 235-pound frame than attempt to dance around them.


RB Anthony Allen
Now that Jonathan Dwyer has left early for the NFL, someone is going to run for plenty of yards from the B-back position in this option offense. That someone will be Allen. As a rarely used complement a year ago, he ran for 618 yards and six scores on only 64 carries. As the feature guy, he'll have the opportunity to double those numbers... at least. A physical 6-0, 230-pounder, he also showed tremendous explosiveness in his Yellow Jacket debut, busting through holes like a freight train and averaging more than nine yards a carry.


WR Darvin Adams
No Tiger benefited from the change in offensive philosophy in 2009 more than Adams. A year after catching three passes all season, he pulled down a school-record 60 passes for 997 yards and 10 touchdowns. Yet, he failed to even make the All-SEC team, an indication of how fast he snuck up on people last fall. Now that everyone has been in Gus Malzahn's system for a year and there could be a quarterback upgrade if Cameron Newton delivers, the junior receiver will be impossible to ignore. A long target at 6-3 and 185 pounds, he runs great routes and flashes the big-play ability that the offense desires.

CFN


LB Akeem Ayers
One of these days, folks outside of Westwood are going to recognize that Ayers is one of the most underrated playmakers in the country. Soon, maybe. With the size of a defensive end and the quickness of some safeties, he's able to wreak havoc all over the field. Although unfairly overlooked on the All-Pac-10 squad, he had 75 tackles in his first year as a starter, adding 14.5 tackles for loss, six sacks, four interceptions and four forced fumbles. Ayers is a 6-4, 252-pound menace who’s about to embark on a monster junior season for the Bruins.


LB Vontaze Burfict
There's a good reason Burfict had offers to play at every major program on the West Coast, including USC, a year ago — he’s an elite talent, with a tremendous future in Tempe. He wasted no time getting acclimated to the speed of the college game, finishing his first year with 69 tackles, seven tackles for loss, two sacks and a pair of forced fumbles. At 6-3 and 245 pounds, he gives nothing away to more experienced opponents, combining strength and aggression with above average range for an inside linebacker.


DE Jack Crawford
Even more exciting than Crawford's 31 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks from a year ago is that he hasn't been playing this sport very long. He was raised in the United Kingdom and didn't take up American football until 2006. He was a quick learner, however, and still has plenty of room for development as a pass rusher over the next two seasons. He moves very well for a 6-5, 255-pounder, and is one of the team's hardest workers, on the field and away from it. If he continues to evolve, the sky's the limit for the rising junior.



DE Marcell Dareus
As you might figure, Dareus had a difficult time making a name for himself on a defense that included Terrence Cody, Rolando McClain and Javier Arenas. That won't be so much of an issue in 2010. A disruptive end in the body of a 6-4, 295-pound tackle, he compiled 33 tackles, nine tackles for loss and a team-best 6.5 sacks despite starting just a handful of games. The defensive MVP of the BCS national championship game, he's destined to use that performance against Texas as a launching point for a far less anonymous junior year.



S Rashard Hall
The Tigers have hit the daily double at safety over the past six months. Not only did All-American DeAndre McDaniel decide to return for his senior year, but Hall also has developed into a tremendous complement early in his career. As a redshirt freshman, he forced his way into the lineup at free safety, making 63 tackles, picking off six passes and flying all over the field on special teams. At 6-2 and 195 pounds, he has the size and strength to fill the lanes in run defense, yet also possesses the instincts and cover skills of a quality cornerback.



S Tysyn Hartman
As converted quarterbacks go, Hartman is turning out to be a very valuable safety for the Wildcats. He made the switch before the 2008 season and has kept getting better, collecting 54 tackles, five interceptions and All-Big 12 honorable mention recognition a year ago. Above all else, he's an outstanding all-around athlete and, at 6-3 and 207 pounds, brings imposing size to the secondary. With two more years of eligibility remaining in Manhattan, he has enough time to blossom into one of the college game's premier defensive backs.



CB Greg Reid
Reid suffered through some guilt by association in his first year in Tallahassee, playing in a secondary that got routinely toasted. Still, it was obvious to anyone who watched his film that he's going to be a special playmaker at Florida State. While not very big at 5-9 and 180 pounds, he's one of those insanely explosive athletes who plays much larger than his measurements. He broke up eight passes and was not intimidated by the competition last fall, building confidence as the season wound down. With Patrick Robinson gone, Reid is ready to step into the lineup and begin making game-changing plays.



DE Kenny Rowe
Although the consistency wasn't always there for Rowe in his first year as a starter, the potential was, especially in the Rose Bowl. He got minimal resistance from the Ohio State offensive line, collecting four tackles for loss, three sacks and a bunch of hurries of Buckeyes QB Terrelle Pryor. Call it a sneak peak into next season, his final one in Eugene. At 6-3 and 232 pounds, he's essentially a glorified outside linebacker, using his speed and get-off to jet past unprepared offensive tackles. After finishing a quiet No. 9 nationally in sacks, he's itching to raise his profile beyond the West Coast.



LB Shayne Skov
More than just one of the rising young stars at linebacker, Skov is a shining example of how Jim Harbaugh is raising the talent level in Palo Alto. A 2009 can't-miss recruit who prepped on the East Coast, he was as good as advertised in his maiden season, working his way into the lineup and finishing third on the Cardinal with 62 tackles. He has the complete package of size, athleticism and instincts to quickly emerge as the leader of the defense, especially with Bo McNally and Clinton Snyder no longer around.



DE Aldon Smith
This is the classic example of the modest recruit who works hard in the offseason, blooms a little late and catches a lot of people by surprise in his first year. Without much warning, Smith shot up to 6-5 and 255 pounds and routinely busted through opposing offensive lines as a redshirt freshman. A tremendous physical specimen with the long arms to swim past tackles, he earned the Big 12 Defensive Freshman of the Year, making 64 tackles, 19 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks. If he keeps learning and working, he has everything else needed to become one of the nation's top pass rushers.