[blotsfan]

I'm not a medical expert, but I think abortions should have a 100% success rate.

And thats just not true. What if you had a great job that you had to quit because of the kid? What if you dont have the money to raise one. What if you just plain don't like kids? All valid reasons to not want one.

[Maverick]

blotsfan, on 30 May 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

I'm not a medical expert, but I think abortions should have a 100% success rate.

And thats just not true. What if you had a great job that you had to quit because of the kid? What if you dont have the money to raise one. What if you just plain don't like kids? All valid reasons to not want one.

Back in the good old days, the response would be you should have been more careful then.

It literally blows my fucking mind how people nowadays carelessly have sex and oh, if something happens we'll just get an abortion. NBD.

This post has been edited by Maverick : 30 May 2012 - 07:29 AM

[blotsfan]

Thank goodness we live in a society that has moved past the "good old days."

[Maverick]

blotsfan, on 30 May 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

Thank goodness we live in a society that has moved past the "good old days."

What's wrong with "you should have been more careful?"

[blotsfan]

She should have been more careful if she didn't want to have to get an abortion. Once she does its not on her.

[RazorStar]

The pull out method never works... Wait, how far back are these good ol days anyway?

[Maverick]

blotsfan, on 30 May 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

She should have been more careful if she didn't want to have to get an abortion. Once she does its not on her.

Well if that's your answer, that goes into the whole discussion of whether you think abortion is right or not so we'll leave it at that.

RazorStar, on 30 May 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:

The pull out method never works... Wait, how far back are these good ol days anyway?

Yeah it usually doesn't work, ask my best friend!

Far, Razor. Far...

[BwareDWare94]

blotsfan, on 30 May 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

I'm not a medical expert, but I think abortions should have a 100% success rate.

And thats just not true. What if you had a great job that you had to quit because of the kid? What if you dont have the money to raise one. What if you just plain don't like kids? All valid reasons to not want one.

There's a difference between not wanting one and having one and thinking your life is worse because of it. One is valid. The other is a damn crime, in my book. If you don't love your child, there's something wrong with you.

[oochymp]

Maverick, on 30 May 2012 - 07:27 AM, said:

Back in the good old days, the response would be you should have been more careful then.

It literally blows my fucking mind how people nowadays carelessly have sex and oh, if something happens we'll just get an abortion. NBD.

QFT, it's amazing to me how people act like pregnancy isn't even a foreseeable result of sex, I actually had a prof last semester essentially say that in a discussion about abortion, if he hadn't moved on quickly I might have lost it

[monstersofthemidway]

BwareDWare94, on 29 May 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

Doctors can fuck up in MUCH worse ways. I hardly think this is a fireable offense.

Some peoples jobs are a bit more serious than others when I fuck up at work I get suspended, If your an abortion doctor and don't do your job which is performing abortions than you should be fired.

[Socal]

monstersofthemidway, on 30 May 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Some peoples jobs are a bit more serious than others when I fuck up at work I get suspended, If your an abortion doctor and don't do your job which is performing abortions than you should be fired.

That's not how it works, any doctor that performs any type of medical procedure or operation is highly skilled and trained in what they do, but there is always an element of error or unforeseen circumstances that have to be accounted for and they make mistakes.

It's why there is such a thing called malpractice insurance, which protects the doctor from such unfortunate circumstances when they make a mistake during a surgery and the patient rightfully sues them. It's really quite common, believe it or not, and there are exceptional doctors out there with years and years of training that have been sued multiple times for malpractice.

I don't know the policies in Spain, but in the United States, the majority of states require physicians to obtain professional liability insurance in order to treat clients. This doctor messed up, but he shouldn't lose his job over it, while it would be ideal, expecting all physicians to have a 100% success rate in everything they do is just not practical.

The doctor SHOULD pay for his negligence, i.e. refunding operational costs and paying for medical bills associated with giving birth to the child, that's all pretty standard in a case like this. Even the sum of money awarded to her is not extreme or really out of the ordinary, whether one agrees with it or not. However the fact that he has to pay child support until the boy is 26 years old is absurd, that's not his responsibility, and its the only reason why this story is in news.

[Thanatos19]

blotsfan, on 30 May 2012 - 07:20 AM, said:

And thats just not true. What if you had a great job that you had to quit because of the kid? What if you dont have the money to raise one. What if you just plain don't like kids? All valid reasons to not want one.

A-d-o-p-t-i-o-n

This not a choice between abortion or having to raise the kid.

This is a choice between abortion or adoption or having to raise the kid.

You act like her only alternative now that the abortion has failed is to raise the child. If she still doesn't want the child she can give it up for adoption.

[Milla4Prez63]

No way the doctor should have to pay child support. He should pay damages and medical bills, but child support is silly. He failed at his job, but the mother and father (Where the hell is he in all this? Sounds like this chick got knocked up on one night stand and probably doesn't even remember the face of the father) are the ones who created the child, they are the ones who should have to pay the child's way, not the doctor who failed to get rid of it after it was already created.