[butta55]

I got a close three between the Bucs, Chiefs, and Bills

Bucs: Because they had the best draft agreed. And the talent level on that young team is through the roof, let Freeman take a breath and catch on to the new system and it could be scary. Oh yeah did I mention that added a top 2 guard (Nicks)to accompany joeseph and a top 15 receiver (Jackson)?

Chiefs: This is a playoff team no question. Even with injuries you saw some players really make a leap into stardom (Hali, Johnson, Flowers) With a healthy squad and a solid draft class I have to say they are the popular pick to jump up.

Bills: I'm a D-Line guy...it's what I play and what I coach and from a football stand point a great defensive line makes the linebackers and secondary look a helluva lot better! I think they have a top DL and this will elevate their defense at all levels. On offense you bring back a healthy Fred Jackson and hopefully Fitz can evolve as a QB you looking at a defensive control the game type of team

[Plax 4 Prez]

GoodellFTL, on 06 June 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

Which team has the best chance to go from last place to first place in their division?

I am going with the Chiefs. They have a division in which no one team really stands out to take it, they will be getting a lot of guys back who were hurt last year and have a new HC who I like in Romeo Crennel.

I said Bucs, cause Freeman is a quality qb, now has Vincent Jackson, better o-line, and a great young coaching staff.

[Plax 4 Prez]

double post, my work pc sucks

This post has been edited by Plax 4 Prez: 07 June 2012 - 08:33 PM

[Plax 4 Prez]

And maybe the Skins, but I hope not, lol

This post has been edited by Plax 4 Prez: 07 June 2012 - 08:32 PM

[butta55]

Come on guys...I joined this site not too long ago cause it promised no trolls and no crap just football talk. If you want to smack talk then its a forum for that...otherwise lets just be football fans and DEBATE not ARGUE.(NO lost of rep for this! lol)

This post has been edited by butta55: 07 June 2012 - 11:38 PM

[Zack_of_Steel]

butta55, on 07 June 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

Come on guys...I joined this site not too long ago cause it promised no trolls and no crap just football talk. If you want to smack talk then its a forum for that...otherwise lets just be football fans and DEBATE not ARGUE.(NO lost of rep for this! lol)

Not sure where the perceived "smack talk" is in this thread. You're perpetuating any problems by spamming.



Best chance for "worst to first" has got to be the Chiefs, though I don't think any of the teams will turn it that far around.

[butta55]

Haha how am I spamming? I just like to see civil football talk with facts and debate and not a bunch of loss of rep because of past encounters and feuding. Some of the stuff people are losing rep for isn't THAT off the wall. If I'm wrong for that then my bad I joined for the wrong reason

[oochymp]

I'm surprised so many people are mentioning the Bills, they've certainly improved and should be a good team, I'd even give them an outside shot at a playoff berth, but I can't see them topping the Patriots for the division

[SteelersNation36]

butta55, on 08 June 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Haha how am I spamming? I just like to see civil football talk with facts and debate and not a bunch of loss of rep because of past encounters and feuding. Some of the stuff people are losing rep for isn't THAT off the wall. If I'm wrong for that then my bad I joined for the wrong reason

Ignore the rep thing, people just neg to neg sometimes. Don't get why people continue to get butt hurt over a + or - symbol on a forum.

On topic i'm going with the Bucs.

[RogerGoodellSucks]

butta55, on 07 June 2012 - 11:37 PM, said:

Come on guys...I joined this site not too long ago cause it promised no trolls and no crap just football talk. If you want to smack talk then its a forum for that...otherwise lets just be football fans and DEBATE not ARGUE.(NO lost of rep for this! lol)

I don't see any smack in this thread?

[RogerGoodellSucks]

oochymp, on 08 June 2012 - 09:35 AM, said:

I'm surprised so many people are mentioning the Bills, they've certainly improved and should be a good team, I'd even give them an outside shot at a playoff berth, but I can't see them topping the Patriots for the division

I like the Bills as a team, especially if they can stay healthy, but I can't see them beating out the Patriots for the division.

[blotsfan]

GoodellFTL, on 08 June 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

I like the Bills as a team, especially if they can stay healthy, but I can't see them beating out the Patriots for the division.

What are you talking about? We're only one plane crash away from being better than them.*

*not actually wishing death on the patriots.**

**wouldnt mind if the dolphins died though.

[Milla4Prez63]

DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F, on 07 June 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

At least the Chiefs won a fairly high number of games with the injuries they suffered.

The Bucs defense last year was one of the absolute worst in the NFL... And while there always seems to be a defense going from worst to top 5 top 10, I don't see that being the Bucs. They didn't make enough moves in the offseason, and arguably their best player on defense (McCoy) has yet to of played a full season.

IMO, the Falcons have the best chance of dethroning the Saints.

Our defense isn't very good, but it won't be as bad as last year. Injuries, bad coaching and players who flat out quit made things into a disaster. We won't be scaring any offenses, but our defense shouldn't be pathetic like last year. Especially if McCoy can stay healthy, our defense was actually playing well for the most part when he was healthy. They totally shut down the Falcons for most of the game in the first meeting.