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#1 User is offline   NaTaS 

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:17 AM

It's pretty much a given that HGH is rampant in the NFL. Of all the players, who is the most obvious user?

My pick is Landry.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:42 AM

Lol dam. That dude buffed up alot since the last time I've seen him.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:01 AM

Ive seen guys big like this and not be on ANYTHING. Im sure Landry is taking something but just bcuz your that big doesnt always mean that. Look at guys who come out of jail, some of em look like that ^.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

View Post56AceInDaPlace, on 15 July 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Ive seen guys big like this and not be on ANYTHING. Im sure Landry is taking something but just bcuz your that big doesnt always mean that. Look at guys who come out of jail, some of em look like that ^.


You want to be 'that guy'? Ok, Mr Public Defender - I didnt say he was on HGH with any degree of certainly. This topic is to try and identify those who might be on it based on performance and size, it's a conversation piece. I'm also using HGH as a blanket for any PEDs.

Again, this topic is purely for fun and not an indictment on any players mentioned herein.


As for Mr Landry: You'd be hard pressed to find a guy at his size with guns that big without help and I'm not talking protein power. He could be fully natural, but if there was a player juicing, I'm looking at LaRon.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:20 AM

Landry is obviously using something. You just don't get that big naturally. It's impossible.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 09:32 AM

View PostNaTaS, on 15 July 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

You want to be 'that guy'? Ok, Mr Public Defender - I didnt say he was on HGH with any degree of certainly. This topic is to try and identify those who might be on it based on performance and size, it's a conversation piece. I'm also using HGH as a blanket for any PEDs.

Again, this topic is purely for fun and not an indictment on any players mentioned herein.


As for Mr Landry: You'd be hard pressed to find a guy at his size with guns that big without help and I'm not talking protein power. He could be fully natural, but if there was a player juicing, I'm looking at LaRon.


If im "that guy" then your "THAT GUY". Ok Mr takes it too seriously. All im saying is i dont think he is on anything, just like you saying you think he might be on something.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:09 AM

View Post56AceInDaPlace, on 15 July 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

If im "that guy" then your "THAT GUY". Ok Mr takes it too seriously. All im saying is i dont think he is on anything, just like you saying you think he might be on something.


So you take my retort and put in in caps? Good comeback. I'm going to drop it, I just dont like convo killers.

Your last sentence is probably what you should have used in the first place. We can kill this entire conversation by saying "I've see naturals get that big". That isnt what this discussion is about. There are obviously guys that can get big naturally and there are guys who just look the part.

Who do you think is using PEDs? If you ever watch or follow natural bodybuilding, you'll probably see many of them become disqualified because they were found to be using banned substances (Roids, HGH, etc). In the NFL, it's pretty similar.

According to a few buddies, the drug checking routine is like this: Vrabel is in Arizona visiting friends while he was playing for NE. He got a call from the league asking him where he was at and told him to stay put. In a few hours they sent a rep from a nearby testing facility to go to Vrabel's friends house to test him right there. The testing process is pretty thorough, but most users will confirm that it's not hard to get by if you know what you're doing.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostNaTaS, on 15 July 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

So you take my retort and put in in caps? Good comeback. I'm going to drop it, I just dont like convo killers.

Your last sentence is probably what you should have used in the first place. We can kill this entire conversation by saying "I've see naturals get that big". That isnt what this discussion is about. There are obviously guys that can get big naturally and there are guys who just look the part.

Who do you think is using PEDs? If you ever watch or follow natural bodybuilding, you'll probably see many of them become disqualified because they were found to be using banned substances (Roids, HGH, etc). In the NFL, it's pretty similar.

According to a few buddies, the drug checking routine is like this: Vrabel is in Arizona visiting friends while he was playing for NE. He got a call from the league asking him where he was at and told him to stay put. In a few hours they sent a rep from a nearby testing facility to go to Vrabel's friends house to test him right there. The testing process is pretty thorough, but most users will confirm that it's not hard to get by if you know what you're doing.


Haha always works. Just take what someone says to u and throw it right back em. Kills it everytime haa. And i couldnt say whos on the stuff. I mean we know Merriman was. I always thought he was on something when he was killing it his rookie year.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

I'm trying to understand why Mikey's response warranted that type of reply, NaTaS... :confused:

Just by looking at a player, I would have to agree with Landry
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:01 PM

That's LaRon Landry? A fucking safety?

Jesus christ.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:48 PM

On another note, looking at that picture I'm starting to think his head is photoshopped on there.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:13 PM

View PostBwareDWare94, on 15 July 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

On another note, looking at that picture I'm starting to think his head is photoshopped on there.


I thought so too when I first saw it but apparently it's a legit photo. There are a few others of him out there looking crazy big.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:25 PM

View Post56AceInDaPlace, on 15 July 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

Haha always works. Just take what someone says to u and throw it right back em. Kills it everytime haa.



Ah. Very true, my friend. Very true.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:03 PM

I'll go with a guy on my team and say Evan Mathis. He goes from being fat to jacked with not a lot of fat on him and all of the sudden he plays like an all pro. Seems a little fishy lol.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:26 PM

Jesus.

There's no way in hell Landry got like that naturally. IMO anyway.

I mean his arms look as though you're looking at them through one of those warped distortion mirrors.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 05:44 PM

I don't think many people are all that obvious outside of Landry. HGH isn't as strong as steroids so it's not as blatant, but I suspect a small percentage of LB/RB/D-linemen use it to build muscle because of their need for size. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of users just take it to get over injury quicker. As an athlete the saying "time is money" is pretty literal, they don't have time to sit around waiting to heal up.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:48 AM

Baseball players used it just to age well and recover quicker and hit the ball a mile. Football players get paid to get as strong, fierce and fast as possible. There are probably a lot more players using this stuff than what we want to believe. A lot of these kids come out of school looking one way and by week onen they're chiseled. By their sophomore season, they're monsters.
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