[BwareDWare94]

Truth be told, I'm not sure I believe Fitz's even happened.

[seanbrock]

BwareDWare94, on 19 July 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

Truth be told, I'm not sure I believe Fitz's even happened.

Care to explain? lol

[BwareDWare94]

seanbrock, on 19 July 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Care to explain? lol

It's always been an extremely fishy story.

[seanbrock]

BwareDWare94, on 19 July 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

It's always been an extremely fishy story.

I repeat, care to explain?

[Mathias]

More background

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A Lufkin teacher emailed me Tuesday to try to provide a glimpse of Dez’s situation.

"The news media, the Dallas Cowboys, the public, the normal sports fan, cannot imagine the life that this young man had," wrote the teacher, who I later spoke to and wished to remain anonymous. "What he had to overcome can't be imagined by most decent people.

"He comes from absolutely no home life, but when he was drafted, the family came out of the woodwork."

At OSU, Dez never was a problem in terms of behavior. People throughout the athletic department will admit that Dez was completely irresponsible — didn't always go to class, late for meetings, didn't understand the concept of a schedule — but never was he a problem otherwise. No drinking. No drugs. No disrespect.

"The Dez I knew would not beat up his mother," said Marilyn Middlebrook, OSU's associate athletic director for academic affairs. Middlebrook termed Dez "sweet" but "irresponsible."

http://espn.go.com/b...e-on-dez-bryant

[GA_Eagle]

NYGIANTSFLYHIGH, on 19 July 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

I dont know about your neck of the woods, but in NY an "upstate citizen" is usually a drunk, mountain man, woman beater also.....

Hey. I'm from upstate. I only beat my meat thankyou.

edit: My friends from Potsdam would kill me for calling Syracuse upstate though.

This post has been edited by GA_Eagle: 20 July 2012 - 12:19 AM

[DonovanMcnabb for H.O.F]

I know one thing for sure... It's just more proof we need a shorter offseason. >_>

[NaTaS]

Mathias, on 19 July 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

More excuses



http://espn.go.com/b...e-on-dez-bryant

FTFY

[NaTaS]

Shotgun, on 19 July 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

Resources as an adult means little if you're already fucked up by then. I had a pretty shitty life too but hankfully I had a mom that showed me how I should be as a person. There are sixteen personality types in this world and each one of them react to their lives in different ways. You can't say just because a couple people ended up fine that everyone should. And how do you know people who've responded well to a similar environment when we don't know the full extent to what he was exposed to?

I had a really long and thorough reply to this, but lost it when I hit mistakenly closed the tab it was open in.

Here are some of the highlights as I don't remember exactly what I wrote and do not care enough about this topic to rewrite .

Resources mean a ton, especially when you're fucked up. He has coaches and teammates that can help as well as the money to get the best help to be the best person he can be. If he doesn't want the help, then all the more reason he doesn't deserve any pity from me.

Not just a 'couple of people' end up fine. You're discounting the amount of fucked up homes in our society. A great many of those raised in situations too horrible to describe come out to be great members of society. I'm not going to sit here and pick apart the exact nature of his upbringing down to it's roots, there is no way I can know exactly what he went through. To argue that is the only way we can comment on his situation is absurd. There are very similar stories out there, see sean's above.

I'll say it again. However this kid was raised, however he was brought up, does not excuse him from laying hands on a woman. I find it very sad to see that there are several members supporting this kids actions. Fucked up.

[Shotgun]

NaTaS, on 20 July 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Not just a 'couple of people' end up fine. You're discounting the amount of fucked up homes in our society. A great many of those raised in situations too horrible to describe come out to be great members of society. I'm not going to sit here and pick apart the exact nature of his upbringing down to it's roots, there is no way I can know exactly what he went through. To argue that is the only way we can comment on his situation is absurd. There are very similar stories out there, see sean's above.

I'm not discounting anything. I know people including myself that turned out fine but I've met vastly more that ended up as pretty immoral human beings. My relatives are a perfect example. I'm not exaggerating when I say every male in my family has had their own kind of shitty life and I am literally the only one who is not an alcoholic and/or drug addict, and the only one who has never been arrested. Most of them have even stolen from, physically abused, and in a few cases actually tried to murder a member of their own family (In one case succeeded). Counting the males off the top of my head I'm 1 in 23.

NaTaS, on 20 July 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

I'll say it again. However this kid was raised, however he was brought up, does not excuse him from laying hands on a woman. I find it very sad to see that there are several members supporting this kids actions. Fucked up.

People trying to understand the guys mentality and why he'd be okay with hitting his shitty excuse for a mother does not mean they are supporting it. I thought I made that clear myself when in my first couple posts I said he obviously shouldn't have hit her regardless. He should be punished if what's been reported is true, and probably will in some manner, but don't pretend the guy should be perfectly normal or that he even committed some heinous crime. Anyone with a crappy life is going to end up with something off. Some people turn angry, some get horrible self esteem, some try to forget while others want some kind of revenge, many try their hardest to be the exact opposite of the people in their environment, but from my experience most become just like them. As I said in my previous post there are several different personality types and each one can have a different reaction to the same exact environment.

[NaTaS]

Like I said above, I'm not willing to argue this anymore. I've spent far too much of my time already on something I can give two shits about. You have your opinion, I have mine. Arguing via the internet isnt going to change my core values.

My point in my debate with you is he doesnt deserve any of my pity.

[Vin]

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The Associated Press reports Dez Bryant's mother doesn't want to press charges against her son following his alleged domestic violence incident.

Bryant allegedly hit his mother in the face with a baseball hat and pulled her shirt and hair last Monday. DeSoto (TX) police have already decided to file a Class A misdemeanor family violence charge against Bryant, but it's unlikely the case would move forward without his mother's cooperation. Bryant's chances of drawing a suspension are dwindling.

Source: Associated Press

[Vin]

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Owner Jerry Jones indicated that he's nearing his breaking point with Dez Bryant and that Bryant is entering a make-or-break year with Dallas.

"He’s got to come on, step up and accept responsibility," Jones said. "I’m demanding that he work through it. He must do it or we can’t count on him." PFT's Mike Florio asked whether that meant the Cowboys could move on from Bryant, and Jones said it did. Perhaps being on the hot seat will light Bryant's fire.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports

[Favre4Ever]

Funny that Mike Florio posted that on his blog while he was hosting the Dan Patrick show... lol. Nothing wrong with it, but kinda funny.