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JetsFan4Life, on 20 August 2012 - 12:05 AM, said:
You did indeed call them very good which I would take as about two rungs up from decent. And I'm not denying that they're both very good I'm just not sure why Ryan isn't there. I guess we just agree to disagree on that.
As for the other parts of your post I really don't see what you mean by Greene being better than he gets credit. Jets fans have been waiting for him to do what he did in the 2009 playoffs vs. the Chargers on a consistent basis and he hasn't come close. This year is pretty much his last shot at the starting running back position.
And I can't deny the offensive line comment but last season we also had a couple of the worst in Slauson and Hunter (and this upcoming season as well).
As for the other parts of your post I really don't see what you mean by Greene being better than he gets credit. Jets fans have been waiting for him to do what he did in the 2009 playoffs vs. the Chargers on a consistent basis and he hasn't come close. This year is pretty much his last shot at the starting running back position.
And I can't deny the offensive line comment but last season we also had a couple of the worst in Slauson and Hunter (and this upcoming season as well).
we may need to agree to disagree on Ryan, I still think he's at least a good couple notches below both Harbaughs for the reasons I've already explained
as for Greene, most people seem to consider him one of the worst starting RBs in the league, I'd put him somewhere around the middle, certainly not top ten but I could see him in the top 15, certainly top 20, maybe the general perception of him is better than I thought, but it seems like most people think you could plug anyone in there and get a better performance
dutchff7, on 20 August 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:
I wouldn't necessarily say that. It's not like it's a new young fresh team that are inexperienced. The Ravens defense was already set in place. The Ravens were known for having a great defense for yeeears now. They really have the same core of star members that hold that team together; players that are already down with the program. They just established continuity which isn't hard to do when you have veteran experienced players like the Ravens have. Same thing with the Steelers when Bill Cowher retired.
they do have a solid core, but you would expect players like Ed Reed and Ray Lewis to start tailing off now that they're getting older, maybe it speaks more to the abilities of those two players, but it's not easy to keep up the same performance level as a team for this long, and I will grant that the Ravens' front office has done a very good job of keeping a steady infusion of young talent, but getting those guys to buy into the system presents challenges of its own
