[SteVo]

DeSean Jackson. Without question.

[Mathias]

BwareDWare94, on 26 June 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Phil Costa
Kevin Ogletree (this may change if he doesn't suck this year)
Mike Jenkins (don't like the bitchy attitude about Carr and Claiborne or the absurd celebrations every time he makes a play)
Marcus Spears (I still miss Chris Canty)

Vikings:
Phil Loadholdt. Dude sucks.
Leslie Frazier (way too unemotional for a coach. There's a reason Tony Dungy only won one Super Bowl with all of his great teams).

Pick a team, Bangy.

[BwareDWare94]

Mathias, on 27 June 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

Pick a team, Bangy.

Yeah, shithead. I picked my main team and my, well, my closest to local team who I have to watch every Sunday so I might as well be something of a fan of them.

[RogerGoodellSucks]

Now that Elbert Mack is gone, I am not really sure. Probably Jeremy Trueblood. He isn't good and is just such an idiot. He constaqntly makes bonehead penalties that destroy drives.

[Mathias]

BwareDWare94, on 27 June 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Yeah, shithead. I picked my main team and my, well, my closest to local team who I have to watch every Sunday so I might as well be something of a fan of them.

Not a true fan.^

You disgust me.

[rzb]

BwareDWare94, on 27 June 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Yeah, shithead. I picked my main team and my, well, my closest to local team who I have to watch every Sunday so I might as well be something of a fan of them.

Mathias, on 27 June 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

Not a true bandwagon fan.^

You disgust me.

Agreed. Although Mathias avoided the topic question

Phil Costa. So many fucked up snaps. Inexcusable.

[Rain Man]

Sam Baker

[butta55]

Well no more Roy Williams...so give me Chris Williams. Never should have drafted him and never should have kept him around after busting as a player.

[NYGIANTSFLYHIGH]

Brandon Jacobs was my clear cut #1, and Aaron "Toast" Ross 6 months ago....thanks San Fran and Jax

Currently Id have to say....David Baas...overpaid, little production, always has an excuse for everything....Thanks again San Fran lol, I guess you getting Jacobs was our form of payback for this bum

[Thanatos19]

NYGIANTSFLYHIGH, on 06 July 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Brandon Jacobs was my clear cut #1, and Aaron "Toast" Ross 6 months ago....thanks San Fran and Jax

Currently Id have to say....David Baas...overpaid, little production, always has an excuse for everything....Thanks again San Fran lol, I guess you getting Jacobs was our form of payback for this bum

Jacobs is a decent #2 back, never was clear on why you hated him so much.

[seanbrock]

Either DeSean or DRC. DeSean is the obvious one. The hold out, the arrogance and the unwillingness to play hard last year was pretty god damn frustrating. He's not the greatest WR in the league by any stretch of the imagination but he was certainly capable of playing better than he did last year.

DRC I hate because he only plays well against teams with weak passing attacks. Asante Samuel couldn't tackle either but at least the guy came up with some big time turnovers and could actually cover. DRC was worthless last year. We would have been better off if he was on PUP the whole year. Physically he's one of the absolute most gifted DB's I've ever seen but he just seems to put in minimal effort.


I hope both these guys come out with something to prove here and play a lot better.

This post has been edited by seanbrock: 08 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

[butta55]

seanbrock, on 06 July 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Either DeSean or DRC. DeSean is the obvious one. The hold out, the arrogance and the unwillingness to play hard last year was pretty god damn frustrating. He's not the greatest WR in the league by any stretch of the imagination but he was certainly capable of playing better than he did last year.DRC I hate because he only plays well against teams with weak passing attacks. Asante Samuel couldn't cover either but at least the guy came up with some big time turnovers and could actually cover. DRC was worthless last year. We would have been better off if he was on PUP the whole year. Physically he's one of the absolute most gifted DB's I've ever seen but he just seems to put in minimal effort.I hope both these guys come out with something to prove here and play a lot better.

I don't think DRC was there mentally last year. And honestly I wasn't surprised to seem him play the way he did in Philly or the whole team for that matter.

Looking at it from his point of view at the time he is coming off his third year as a pro on a team in which he was really coming into his own as a player and establishing himself as one of the young leaders trying to help turn the culture of the Cardinals around. He was a Pro-Bowler during his time in Arizona and he also was apart of that amazing Superbowl run that really gave everyone on that team some confidence.

After having a less than Pro Bowl year in 2010 I'm sure he was ready to get back to work and prove something. Now all of a sudden out of nowhere he is traded along with a 2nd round pick (very valuable itself) for KEVIN KOLB. Now we all understand the desperate push for a starting QB by the Cardinals, but in DRC's shoes just thinking about trying to make his career into something solid and more than that be a leader for this team and just like that he is traded while the guy drafted to be his partner now becomes his replacement and he is right in the middle of "The Dream Team".

With media attention at a constant high and moving to a new city and new organization all different from the place he has been his entire short career. Now throw in the fact he is no longer a leader, no longer "the guy", he isn't even a starter after establishing himself as such in the NFL. Forced to play third fiddle as a nickel back and see less action then he has in awhile I figured he would play the way he did.

[SteelersNation36]

seanbrock, on 06 July 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Asante Samuel couldn't cover either but at least the guy came up with some big time turnovers and could actually cover.

This sentence confuses me, so he could or couldn't?


For my team its larry Foote. Go away.

[dutchff7]

seanbrock, on 06 July 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Either DeSean or DRC. DeSean is the obvious one. The hold out, the arrogance and the unwillingness to play hard last year was pretty god damn frustrating. He's not the greatest WR in the league by any stretch of the imagination but he was certainly capable of playing better than he did last year.

DRC I hate because he only plays well against teams with weak passing attacks. Asante Samuel couldn't cover either but at least the guy came up with some big time turnovers and could actually cover. DRC was worthless last year. We would have been better off if he was on PUP the whole year. Physically he's one of the absolute most gifted DB's I've ever seen but he just seems to put in minimal effort.


I hope both these guys come out with something to prove here and play a lot better.

In DRC's defense, he was playing in the inside; a slot corner role for the 1st time in his career. Playing slot corner is vastly different from playing on the outside having the side line versus playing inside with all that space. It's a vast learning curve. When DRC went back to outside in our last few games, he excelled (played extremely well) which helped make the decision to get rid of Asante and give DRC the starting job. DRC and Nnamdi was shutting it down on the outsides. Both of our corner back acquisitions were asked to do things that they've never done before; DRC playing slot and Nnamdi playing a lot of different zone packages and playing safety at times. Now both are going to be playing their natural positions and I'm sure we will see great production from both of them next year.

[dutchff7]

As far as Asante, he's one of the better zone defenders in the league. He baits passes a lot occasionally giving up a big play but comes up with more turnovers. Asante didn't fit the scheme we are trying to implement this year; playing man on the outsides with our pass rush hunting down the QB. Zone / off coverage doesn't work as well in this scheme. The front end and the back end work hand in hand against the passing attack. With our corners who excel in man to man coverage with our pass rush getting to the QB in seconds, QBs are going to have a very small window getting the ball out. I can't wait until next season.

Back to the topic.. someone else I never really favored (didn't dislike) was Freddie Mitchell. Every since he caught that 4th and 26 pass to help us win that play off game against the packers, he swore he was the man lol. It's like he anointed himself to greatness over that one play.

[True Blue]

Big Mike Williams. He's a lazy self-indulgent fuck who hasn't changed.

[seanbrock]

I meant to say tackling, that's why that post didn't make any sense. I get that DRC maybe isn't that great a slot CB, but he sucked balls after his second year in 2010 and then he sucked balls yet again in 2011 with us. He has A LOT to prove.

As far as Asante goes he's statistically one of the best ocver corners in the league in both man and zone.

[NYGIANTSFLYHIGH]

Thanatos19, on 06 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Jacobs is a decent #2 back, never was clear on why you hated him so much.

For starters he's a loud mouth outspoken dick. That aside, in 2005-2007 his mouth was tolerable, but as 49er fans will soon find out, do you have any idea how frustrating it is to watch a 270 lb RB run lateral to the line of scrimmage, and try to cut on a dime to hit a hole, only to be leg tackled by a 200 lb DB time after time? When a "power" back loses the short yardage job to a 5'8" 190 lb Ahmad Bradshaw, your time in NY has expired....and that was 2 years ago.

Not too mention he was good for a 15 yard flag every few games for something stupid

[Julio4Ever]

Sam Baker is the logical pick here, but once an Eagle...always an Eagle. Asante is going to have to prove to me why I should like him. Just because he's in red and black this year doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy his attitude and lack of effort.

[dutchff7]

ATL, on 09 July 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Sam Baker is the logical pick here, but once an Eagle...always an Eagle. Asante is going to have to prove to me why I should like him. Just because he's in red and black this year doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy his attitude and lack of effort.

Lack of effort? Asante was never a slouch when it comes to work ethic and production on the field. His numbers tell the story as far as effort goes. He gives 100% all the time when he's on the field. As far as attitude, Asante is a cool dude. Personally, I'm going to miss him being an eagle. Our defensive scheme is just going into a different direction; more man to man coverage. Asantes skill set favors zone coverage more then man.