Biggest Factory of Sadness, Browns, Raiders or Bills?

[RazorStar 4,025]

Since 2000

 

Cleveland Browns: 82-158 in the regular season, 0-1 in the playoffs, 7 different head coaches (not counting interims), 21 different starting QBs, signed FA retread Josh McCown in the offseason.

 

Oakland Raiders 89-151 in the regular season, 4-3 in the playoffs, 9 different head coaches, 18 different starting QBs. Did not sign a FA retread QB this offseason... yet.

 

Buffalo Bills: 97-143 in the regular season, 0-0 in the playoffs, 7 different head coaches (not counting interims), 13 different starting QBs, signed FA retread Matt Cassel in the offseason.

 

Who is the most miserable? GIVE IT TO ME, TGP.

[Bay 2,003]

Raiders went 4-3 in playoffs can't pick them. No playoffs since 03. Bills haven't made the playoffs for 15 years but still have to pick the Browns simply for the QB carousel of hell.

[oochymp 2,393]

I'm not sure how the Raiders are in this discussion if you're going to take it back far enough to include their Super Bowl appearance, even if they did lose said Super Bowl to their former coach

[Sarge+ 3,436]

If the cutoff was 2004, it would easily be the Raiders. IMO, they have easily been the worst franchise of the last 10 years. But since it goes back to 2000, I have to go with the Browns and Bills over them.

[RazorStar 4,025]

2000 was a convienient cutoff point because of turn of the century shenanigans and what not. Even including the Raiders three postseason appearances, they still have a worse record than the Bills do over the same span, and only 7 more wins than the Browns.

[Sarge+ 3,436]

I think the consensus is going to be that the Raiders were at least relevant for a short time during this stretch, which is more than can be said of the other 2. My final answer would be the Browns due to their QB carousel.

 

But yea, after 2004... wow. lmaoRaiders.

Edited March 4, 2015 by Sarge

[oochymp 2,393]

[AL_Royalty 489]

I'm gonna go against the seemingly conventional wisdom here and say that it's the Raiders playoff/Super Bowl appearances that make them even MORE tragic than the others.

 

Raiders fans had legitimate excitement and optimism. Then came the cliff that they didn't notice and WHOOP: right over the edge. Never even saw it coming. That had to suck.

 

The plummet just doesn't stop either. A buddy of mine is a legit lifelong Raiders fan, and the playoff bound Raiders are barely a memory top him.

 

At least Browns fans can still talk about their team without a piece of their soul dying. It's always, "If we could just get a QB." The Browns could contend with a legit signal caller.

 

The Raiders have a laundry list of inadequacies that no QB can cover up. There is literally no hope in that fan base. That's my pick.

[DBR96A 87]

Cleveland is the only NFL city that has neither hosted nor had a team participate in the Super Bowl. Even Detroit Houston and Jacksonville have hosted Super Bowls before.

 

I'd actually feel sorry for Browns fans if only they stopped pretending that their city is somehow a beacon of enlightenment and sophistication compared to Pittsburgh. Until then, this is just karma, as far as I'm concerned.

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

Gotta go Brownies

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

Have to go with the Browns, because their incompetent ways actually annoy me a lot of the time. I can only imagine how that constantly inflicts misery into their own fans with out mercy.

[Dutch 874]

It doesn't get any worse than the Browns.

[Barracuda 629]

At least we can win the biggest factory of sadness.

[BJORN 679]

Tuck rule playoff game + getting decimated in the SB...yeah the Raiders were winning in those seasons but they got royally fucked twice. And they've been shit ever since then.

Edited March 5, 2015 by BJORN

[Turry 755]

Sleeper vote. The Lions they have 80 wins since 2000.

[Sarge+ 3,436]

^ And they do have the only 0-16 season in NFL history.

[Turry 755]

Also the Lions have not won a playoff game since 1991

[CampinWithaMissingPerson 2,025]

WHEW

[Dutch 874]

Leave it to a Bears fan to put the Lions on blast

[Favre4Ever+ 4,476]

Leave it to a Bears fan to put the Lions on blast

They need to be reminded of their place at the bottom often. I approve of Terry's comments.